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Nov 20 2007, 4:22 AM EST by
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Hi everyone,
I have just started a Google group for discussion of games and gaming in libararies.
Everything from Monopoly to World of Warcraft is fair game. We are also interested in new ways to use ICT, social networking and the way young people use technology.
You can join here:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/lib-gaming-uk?hl=en
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David Weinberger and Melvil Dewey!
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Nov 6 2007, 11:29 AM EST by
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Hi All
I am currently reading the latest book by David Weinberger - "Everything is Miscellaneous" (check http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/) and in this there is a great chapter called "The Geography of Knowledge" that talks about Melvil Dewey and the Dewey Decimal System, and how this doesnt quite fit into our web 2.0 world... using Amazon as an example
I thought it might be worth sharing with colleagues here, as the themes about how libraries can effectively deal with Web 2.0 and the methods of organising and shaping information associated with it, are very relevant.
Best wishes
Steven
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Research project waiting to happen
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Nov 6 2007, 3:52 AM EST by
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I'd certainly agree with the people from NSW about the potential for a research project. What would be really exciting would be to use a common framework to do some research involving a few libraries involved in similar web 2.0 activities in the UK too...
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Social software in libraries
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Resources and links
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Nov 3 2007, 6:09 AM EDT by
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I've just reviewed this book (by Meredith G Farkas, published by INformation Today, USA) and I'd recommend it. The book's actually better than the website I'd say, especially if you're looking for ideas of how to use web 2.0 technologies in libraries - lots of examples/ideas. Be interested to know if anyone else has read it.
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General Thoughts
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Web2.0 Library Home Pages
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Nov 2 2007, 8:41 AM EDT by
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Hi Nick,
from a look at your homepage concept, I'd suggest taking a step back in the process. You should think about which tasks your site helps with and what problems it solves for the target audience. Come up with some personas, imaginary users, and what their needs might be, or better yet ask some real library users what their common problems are.
When you have those things defined, go back to your interface and think of how each of the page elements feed into those tasks, and pare out anything not directly related to it. It's very easy to start along the lines of "web 2.0 sites must have X", rather than "this web services must have X"
I'd also suggest taking a look at existing services like http://www.revish.com/ or the Facebook bookshelf.
-Matt
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Nov 2 2007, 8:41 AM EDT
Good notion - I like the original idea a lot as well. In fact I've been advocating something a bit similar myself for a while but haven't been in a position to get anything started so I'll be very interested to see how it goes and whether this will lead the way for other authorities. Nick, are you linking it to the LMS so as to provide personalisation via the LMS data? Is that how it will know how old people are etc?
One thing that has occurred to me is that there are now a lot of services out there competing to be the destination for people logging on - and you can make your own tailored homepage with things like www.pageflakes.com. How do we (libraries) ensure that we are providing something that is uniquely attractive so that our audience will log onto our service rather than anywhere else? I think we need a strong selling point for our service to be a chosen destination.
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using wikis with students
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Nov 2 2007, 6:44 AM EDT by
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Hi - just wondered whether the geog teachers are encouraging stduents to use it? Might help if they (or you) promote it in classes?
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Oct 30 2007, 8:20 AM EDT by
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I've added information under the Web2.0 heading about a proposed development to the public library website in Newcastle upon Tyne. Please take a look and let me know what you think!
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Presentation Slides
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Dave Percival & Patricia Garrett
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Oct 29 2007, 8:47 AM EDT by
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Hi Dave and Patricia,
I really enjoyed your presentation, and found it so helpful and honest in terms of dealing with corporate IT, what can and can't be done etc. Would you be able to post your slides on this site, please? I'd like to share the case you made for your wiki's with colleagues, but am trying to be eco-friendly and not print loads out!
Many thanks,
Andrew www.newcastle.gov.uk/libraries
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Newcastle Libraries Stuff
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Oct 12 2007, 8:21 AM EDT by
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Hi Andrew Thanks for adding a page about Newcastle Libraries. Looks interesting - I like your demolition video. I should have said at the conference, if I can set up a wetpaint wiki, absolutely anyone can do it! It really is easy! Sarah
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Social software in schools
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Inspiring the iGeneration Conference
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Oct 11 2007, 7:05 PM EDT by
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I found the conference very inspiring but am concerned about the use of social software in schools. If we develop school library groups on sites such as Facebook how do we draw the line between pupils using it for the library group or being in their area arranging a trip to Macdonalds or the pub? School networks are limited by band width and the number of machines being used; during school hours the use has to be for school work or the whole system grinds to a halt. The more online teaching , use of VLEs, online assessment that takes place the greater the strains on school networks. The ideas for using Blogs and Wkis can be translated into use with VLEs thereby keeping them more within the school framework. I have certainly been inspired to use my Blogs in a different way and to try Wikis both within the VLE and without.
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Conference thoughts
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Oct 11 2007, 10:45 AM EDT by
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I found much here to think about and on return to our library had a go at setting up a trial wiki (still only locked down and private while we play around a bit!) and yes, it was extremely easy to do and might be something we could look at running in our school.
On a negative note, I would have wished to be able to hear the majority of the speakers! Was there a reason that the microphone was not used? Both myself and a colleague missed a great deal of what was said in spite of saying 'no' in response to the calls 'can you hear me at the back?' made by several speakers. This was great pity as it spoiled what was otherwise an informative event.
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Inspiring the iGeneration Conference
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Oct 11 2007, 7:49 AM EDT by
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Hi,
i enjoyed the conference and found it gave me lots to consider - i can't help wondering if it's 'too late for public libraries' though.
Librarything.com may well become the next 'youtube' or 'myspace' and is building up a considerable database of readers' likes, dislikes, user profiles etc. It's approaching 300,00 members now (http://www.librarything.com/zeitgeist) - up by over 100,00 in little over a month. Surely organisations such as Amazon are waiting for the site to reach a 'critical mass' and when it does so will buy the the thing lock ,stock and barrel.
One interesting aspect of Ian Corns excellent presentation was the idea of 'prosumers'. His use of the Arctic Monkeys added emphasis to the notion. Surely most budding authors will increasingly communicate directly with there audiences and self promote/publish directly to them via web2. Here too public libraries may well find themselves out of the equation.
Just my 'two penneth', anyone agree/disagree?
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Sep 28 2007, 7:56 PM EDT by
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I have used forums on our Virtual Learning Environment and they can be a wonderful way of geting student;s to participate and discuss. Is there and advantage in using a wiki over a forum?
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Sep 25 2007, 2:24 PM EDT by
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I'm a wiki 'fresher'! Am looking forward to enlightenment at the conference.
I would love to know any positives of Bebo and MySpace for example, rather than the basic posy photos, and perpetuation of lazy language!
Which campus is our conference being held at?
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Hi there, it's at Wolverhampton Science Park. You can find directions at http://www.wlv.ac.uk/Default.aspx?page=7980
Look forward to seeing you there.
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coming to grips with web 2.0 in schools
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We have come to work this morning to find ourselves embroiled in this debate at a very practical level. On Friday evening wikipedia was blocked to users in our college because of its ability to be edited by anyone. Teachers who prepared lessons last week for this morning have found that aspects of their preparation is now defunct. Interestingly I had taught grade 5 & 6 about this aspect of wikipedia last week, warning them about digital footprints and appropriate use of the internet. Blocking sites for such reasons removes the educational opportunity for reinforcing current computer use policies and warning of the difficulties of web 2.0. Other blocked sites include social networking such as MySpace and Facebook and Google images. Some of these blocks are administered externally by the provider or school system. Others at school level (e.g. the wikipedia one). Schools and school administrations need to come to grips with the positives of web 2.0 authoring tools and make sure that policy addresses those who infringe. It is a classic case of the minority affecting the education of the majority.
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Sep 19 2007, 7:43 PM EDT
The difficulty for schools is protecting students. The reality for the students is that for most of their time they have unprotected access. I firmly believe that schools should be teaching students how to use these sites responsibly abd safely, much in the way that we have bike education, or for that matter sex education. How can students understand these issues without the guidance of appropriate adults? In this case in particular, this skill may be beyond their parents' ken. We certainly live in interesting times.
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